Thursday, August 02, 2007

"Cheap Tomatoes"

This was forwarded to me and I thought it somewhat interesting, but won't voice a personal opinion regarding it one way or the other.


This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent

From a California school teacher - - -

"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal
immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
large southern California high school which is designated a Title
1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic
and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are
protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program.
When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and
roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices
that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is
monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at
least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell
phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed
teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend
class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for
baby-sitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need
for anything; my budget was already substantial.. I ended up
buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of
which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the
appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to
have a free education in America. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students
here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell
with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing
things that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care, etc., etc., etc.
Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country
but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some
time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical
costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools,
overcrowding, new diseases, etc., etc., etc. For me, I'll pay more
for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster
because we won't have the guts to enforce it.
Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily
leave and return?

There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that
contribute to our country and many that I consider my true
friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have
done it the right and legal way.

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children
getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses
to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and
worried about "politically correctness" that we don't have the
will to do anything about it.

If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a
myth, a farce, and a lie. there is no such thing as "cheap labor."

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children.
He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six
dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if
he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit"
of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no CO-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for
SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of
this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or
homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour
in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after
paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and
trash cleanup.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people.


At 5:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do agree with the point this writer is making but about half of what he points out applies not only to some illegal immegrants but to anglo saxon citizens. The illegimate birthrate is lower in immegrants, illegal or otherwise, than in American citizens so those child care centers at most schools aren't there for hispanic new comers. Saying things like that just sound racist. Stick to the facts. The most important thing about this cheap labor is that if immegrants are competing with citizens it lowers the pay citizens can command. THAT is the issue, not government help - though the government should never have to pay for an illegal's services. But as long as illegals are looking for work a citizen has to reduce what he is willing to work for or just decide not to bother working.

At 6:11 PM , Blogger ~D.Puck' said...

Well...not to really comment on the material I reprinted one way or the either...and I agree with most of what you're saying...but isn't the number of illegitamate children from immigrants only lower due to the ratio of the number of citizens in the U.S.A. being MUCH higher?

At 6:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, I don't want to sound racist here and if I do, please don't stop reading until you get to the end. For Africian-Americans something close to 50% of all births are illegitamate. Immigrants don't do anything close to that but anglo Americans are rising swiftly, probably around 25% and on track to catch up with the African-American rate (see? it isn't racist). Generally immigrants don't adopt the "American lifestyle" until they have been here years, frequently into the second generation, which isn't illegal then. This lifestyle includes the illegitamate children and lack of church affiliation.

At 4:52 PM , Blogger ~D.Puck' said...

Yes, I can see what you're getting at there. I think perhaps the writer of that material is mostly upset just because illegals aren't adopting the American lifestyle ("whatever" that really is),and I'm sure he's basing his ideas of "the norm" of whatever lifestyle he personally has (which sounds mostly conservative right wing).

At 3:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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